Sorry, my fault, you see, when you said "in and around the entrance" I though you meant "in and around the entrance", and not inside on the premises. My bad.
So, in order to sort this out, (and I'll pop in to see Lee later if you want) we need to set some rules. (Don't we)?
You would like all swearing in pubs banned? or just getting quieter the nearer you get to the door? Smokers outside should not swear under any circs I'm guessing.
So now we come to the most helpful part. What constitutes a swearing? Damn? Drat? Double Drat? Blast? Bum? Tit? Bugger? The 'F'' word? Could you sustitute two 'bums' for a 'arse' for instance?
Could someone get on the steps and whisper 'cock' under their breath, then say louder 'tits' followed by a bellowed 'twat'? Could one swap a 'bugger' shouted for two 'dick-heads' at normal volume if you weren't quite outside the pub?
Would it be ok to swear outside the Fox and Hounds at Donnington since Mickeys largest neighbour is the Mary Hare?
I'm sure Lee will be grateful for all help you could give. Should he have a swear-box to fine people if they use naughty words? How many would £2.50 buy? Could they be used on or off the premises?
Seriously, if he's got a pub with drinkers in and he decides not to serve one of them because they've had one 'prick', two 'knobs' and a 'fanny' do you think that this is more or less likely increase the swearing from that person?
Swearing can be 'not nice' but moving away is easier.
Threep.
Hi, I have no connection with the place, don't drink there and have no idea who "Lee" is. It seems you do, hence your defensive stance. Sorry, I do not find your childish and sarcastic comments funny or see how they help your friend. Also, where you have mentioned another pub, you have got the name wrong. Rgds
No part of it was defensive. Do know who Lee is, met him once in the Snooty, but was happy to spend my time going to see him in order to help you out. But since you're not going to help. There's nowt more I can do. Wasn't being sarcastic at all. You were so upset that you ventured onto a public forum to have a pop about hearing people swearing and suggested that the pub clean it's 'act' up (and by extension it was in some way the pub's responsiblity since you implied that the pub could stop it.)
All I was doing was trying to set some ground rules that would make you happy. Would it, for example, be ok to swear loudly in Polish if there were no Poles nearby to hear?
However, the more we got into it the sillier your stance appeared. This hasn't been helped by your throwing your toys out of the pram, having a go at the only person who offered to help, and presumably flouncing off.
No part of it was defensive. Do know who Lee is, met him once in the Snooty, but was happy to spend my time going to see him in order to help you out. But since you're not going to help. There's nowt more I can do. Wasn't being sarcastic at all. You were so upset that you ventured onto a public forum to have a pop about hearing people swearing and suggested that the pub clean it's 'act' up (and by extension it was in some way the pub's responsiblity since you implied that the pub could stop it.)
All I was doing was trying to set some ground rules that would make you happy. Would it, for example, be ok to swear loudly in Polish if there were no Poles nearby to hear?
However, the more we got into it the sillier your stance appeared. This hasn't been helped by your throwing your toys out of the pram, having a go at the only person who offered to help, and presumably flouncing off. Threep.
Your presumptions are also incorrect!
I do not believe you were trying to help me and make me happy! Your earlier comments were sarcastic and uncalled for, and you do not deny their childish nature. I now realise you were name-dropping and pretending to have influence. Thank you, but I do not need your help (and never sought it!).
Please do not trouble yourself further with this; go and "help" someone else. All the best. Rgds
No, just for you I shall go and see Lee or Hanna* (if she's working). And draw his / her / their attention to both your post and your theory that Pubs should in some way interfere with the way some customers communicate with, and to, each other.
Would you like me to come back and post any comments made? Be warned, since you are a sensitive soul, there might just be a bit of bad language.
"do not trouble yourself further with this; go and "help" someone else. All the best. Rgds"....sounds like another flounce.
You really haven't thought it through have you?
Or, if you have, how would you propose a pub 'gets it's act together' to impose the sensitivites of it's non-customers upon those who are?
A great event spolit, for us, by the foul language and aggressive behaviour of some individuals who were drinking in and around the entrance of the Old Wagon & Horses on Market Square. This pub needs to clean up its act.
Can you describe the aggressive behaviour you talking about?
I seem to remember it was the Wagon which was the pub that called the police when some customers began annoying the landlord & this kicked off the CCTV saga.
I was in a pub in a rough part of Bristol the other day. The landlord heard my brother swear at the bar and requested that he stopped swearing. Personally, I find swearing in the street quite aggressive and have on occasion asked youths to stop. I do swear myself. Usually it is in anger, hence I guess why I find it aggressive. But swearing in the street is a police matter. Whether they would risk doing anything in Newbury on a Saturday night is another matter.
Where did I say that? The point is, the races usually bring the unsavoury element to the streets of town, so it could not be considered a normal Saturday crowd.
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I seem to remember it was the Wagon which was the pub that called the police when some customers began annoying the landlord & this kicked off the CCTV saga.
It was a gang of roving yobs that started this all off I understand. They made a nuisance of themselves in several places it was alleged. The CCTV saga (where councillors demonstrably didn't know what was going on and was tried to be hushed by WBC) was started by Threep!
I seem to remember it was the Wagon which was the pub that called the police when some customers began annoying the landlord & this kicked off the CCTV saga.
I was in a pub in a rough part of Bristol the other day. The landlord heard my brother swear at the bar and requested that he stopped swearing. Personally, I find swearing in the street quite aggressive and have on occasion asked youths to stop. I do swear myself. Usually it is in anger, hence I guess why I find it aggressive. But swearing in the street is a police matter. Whether they would risk doing anything in Newbury on a Saturday night is another matter.
Swearing is not a police matter - we still have freedom of speech. It's aggressive or anti-social behaviour (which usually includes swearing) that is a matter for the police.
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